http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2016/08/09/murdochs-illuminati-the-expanded-canvas-of-national-geographic-magazine/
I also found this recently dealing the history of the Nathan Rothschild Waterloo legend.
http://tinyurl.com/RothschildLibel
The first Article also talks about the Kolmer Legend, so may be a source of a future article I write here.
Showing posts with label Adam Weishaupt. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Adam Weishaupt. Show all posts
Monday, August 15, 2016
Monday, February 15, 2016
Adam Weishaupt was (Not) a Jesuit
Terry Melanson does a good job of documenting how Adam Weistaupt was an enemy of the Jesuits.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2015/02/08/illuminati-conspiracy-part-two-sniffing-out-jesuits/#Strategems-of
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2015/07/28/roots-of-the-hermetic-order-of-the-golden-dawn/
But I'm doing this post as an overdue response to Johnny Cirucci and his claims in his two part Interview with Rob Skiba.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIgwnwpCanA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo-vmhhpgmE
For the first part I and some others left comments correcting this myth which Rob Skiba asked him to respond to in part two. And he just kept up his usual spiel.
He fully admits we have no documentation of Weishaupt ever being a member of the Jesuits. His argument is solely that he could not possibly have become Professor of Cannon Law at a Jesuit controlled university if he wasn't a Jesuit.
But he goes on to talk about the history surrounding the suppression of the Jesuit order, and is blindingly ignorant to how that destroyed his entire argument about Weishaupt being a Jesuit. He was appointed Professor of Canon Law AFTER the Suppression, he was entrusted with that position at that time precisely because he hated the Jesuits and was determined to root them out.
He talks also about presumed Jesuit take over of Freemasonry. The Masons who joined the Illuminati were attracted to it precisely because they too were paranoid about that very subject. Kingge and Bode and so on. Also Nicolas Bonneville who was not a known member but was a known sympathizer.
What's amusing is the claim of Templar origin of Freemasonry that modern Conspiracy Theorists both for and against the Masons accept at face value, was a myth created as part of the Jesuit infiltration. It was largely the Strict Observance Rite that popularized it.
Interestingly in the original version of the myth it wasn't the Templars but rather the Knights Hospilitars. In a narrative promoted by Michael Ramsay in 1737. Ramsay was a member himself of a totally different Crusader era monastic order, the Order of Lazarus. It's also notable that in Cagliastro's fanciful origin story he wrote for himself he connected himself to the Knights of Malta via his imagined mentor Althotas. (Althotas was clearly the basis for the later Kolmer legend added to Weishaupt's fictional biography).
I find it interesting in all those links however, that these attempts by the Jesuits to Catholisize Freemasonry went hand in hand with the Jacobite Stuart cause, (Ramsey was a Jacobite and the Strict Observance Rite at least claimed connections to the Exiled Stuarts). Because the same Pope who suppressed the Jesuits was also the one who stopped officially recognizing the exiled Stuarts when Charles Edward Stuart become the Stuart heir in 1766. That direct Stuart line died out, so who knows if the modern Stuart claimants have the same Jesuit connections.
The Jesuits today are a shadow of what they once were. People make a big deal out of Francis being the first Jesuit to become Pope. But he also has this Liberal Obama clone reputation that is totally counter to the political agenda of the Jesuits who Weishaupt and Eugene Sue where so determined to demonize.
Let's talk about Eugene Sue for a bit. Besides being a Socialist rather then Protestant he was kind of the Jack Chick of Nineteenth Century France.
When discussing the origins of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion hoax. People will talk about how it plagiarized from Dialogue in Hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu a political satire by Maurice Jolly. And a chapter of Biarritz an 1868 novel by Anti-Semitic German author Hermann Goedsche.
Somewhat more Esoteric but still fairly well known is that the Dialouge in Hell was itself plagiarizing the 1856 published last volume of Eugene Sue's Les Mysteries Du Peuple (Mysteries of a People) series of novellas.
In the last few Novels of that saga during their depiction of the French Revolutions (both the original and the 1848 one) Sue decided to build a Shared Universe by incorporating both the Hero of his first hit The Mysteries of Paris, Rodolphe Duke of Gerolstien, and the Villain of his second hit The Wandering Jew, the Jesuit Magnificent Bastard Father Robin.
At the end of the last novel set in 1848 Rodolphe thwarts Father Rodin's effort to carry out a Jesuit master plan for world domination. This plan (which was removed from the only existing English Translation of the Novel titled The Galley Slave's Ring; or, The Family Lebrenn) is the literary ancestor of the Protocols.
What is very rarely known however, is that there was a book published in 1848 claiming to expose a real life Jesuit Conspiracy not at all unlike the one depicted in Eugene Sue's fiction. The Jesuit Conspiracy. The Secret Plan of The Order by Jacopo Leon.
So the history of Jesuit Conspiracy theories, real or imagined, is a long and complicated one. Today it tends to manifest in fiction not with actual Jesuits but Fictional analogues (or Dan Brown's view of Opus Dei). The Hellsing Anime is probably more in line with Jack Chick then Eugene Sue with it's Anglican POV. But I still see it's Ultimate (pun intended) literary debt as being to Sue.
In counter to them sometimes are works like the last three of Ponson Du Terril's Rocambole novels which depict an imagined Anglican counterpart to the Jesuits, and with Jesuits portrayed positively. If Ponson was more informed he could have used the real life Orange Lodge of Freemasonry which is/was very much politically involved in opposing the causes of Irish and Scottish independence.
If you want to for fun read an Unintentionally (maybe) hilarious defense of the Jesuits by a 19th Century French Catholic Royalist. I recommend Paul Feval's, it's the only of his post "conversion" works available in English. http://theshadowmenlounge.tumblr.com/post/138210841036/jesuits-enlgish-translation-interesting
None of my undermining of Jesuit Conspiracy theories here makes me a Catholic Apologist, you can see my opposition to Catholic Doctrine is quite harsh on my Socla Scirptura Blog.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2015/02/08/illuminati-conspiracy-part-two-sniffing-out-jesuits/#Strategems-of
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2015/07/28/roots-of-the-hermetic-order-of-the-golden-dawn/
But I'm doing this post as an overdue response to Johnny Cirucci and his claims in his two part Interview with Rob Skiba.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIgwnwpCanA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo-vmhhpgmE
For the first part I and some others left comments correcting this myth which Rob Skiba asked him to respond to in part two. And he just kept up his usual spiel.
He fully admits we have no documentation of Weishaupt ever being a member of the Jesuits. His argument is solely that he could not possibly have become Professor of Cannon Law at a Jesuit controlled university if he wasn't a Jesuit.
But he goes on to talk about the history surrounding the suppression of the Jesuit order, and is blindingly ignorant to how that destroyed his entire argument about Weishaupt being a Jesuit. He was appointed Professor of Canon Law AFTER the Suppression, he was entrusted with that position at that time precisely because he hated the Jesuits and was determined to root them out.
He talks also about presumed Jesuit take over of Freemasonry. The Masons who joined the Illuminati were attracted to it precisely because they too were paranoid about that very subject. Kingge and Bode and so on. Also Nicolas Bonneville who was not a known member but was a known sympathizer.
What's amusing is the claim of Templar origin of Freemasonry that modern Conspiracy Theorists both for and against the Masons accept at face value, was a myth created as part of the Jesuit infiltration. It was largely the Strict Observance Rite that popularized it.
Interestingly in the original version of the myth it wasn't the Templars but rather the Knights Hospilitars. In a narrative promoted by Michael Ramsay in 1737. Ramsay was a member himself of a totally different Crusader era monastic order, the Order of Lazarus. It's also notable that in Cagliastro's fanciful origin story he wrote for himself he connected himself to the Knights of Malta via his imagined mentor Althotas. (Althotas was clearly the basis for the later Kolmer legend added to Weishaupt's fictional biography).
I find it interesting in all those links however, that these attempts by the Jesuits to Catholisize Freemasonry went hand in hand with the Jacobite Stuart cause, (Ramsey was a Jacobite and the Strict Observance Rite at least claimed connections to the Exiled Stuarts). Because the same Pope who suppressed the Jesuits was also the one who stopped officially recognizing the exiled Stuarts when Charles Edward Stuart become the Stuart heir in 1766. That direct Stuart line died out, so who knows if the modern Stuart claimants have the same Jesuit connections.
The Jesuits today are a shadow of what they once were. People make a big deal out of Francis being the first Jesuit to become Pope. But he also has this Liberal Obama clone reputation that is totally counter to the political agenda of the Jesuits who Weishaupt and Eugene Sue where so determined to demonize.
Let's talk about Eugene Sue for a bit. Besides being a Socialist rather then Protestant he was kind of the Jack Chick of Nineteenth Century France.
When discussing the origins of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion hoax. People will talk about how it plagiarized from Dialogue in Hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu a political satire by Maurice Jolly. And a chapter of Biarritz an 1868 novel by Anti-Semitic German author Hermann Goedsche.
Somewhat more Esoteric but still fairly well known is that the Dialouge in Hell was itself plagiarizing the 1856 published last volume of Eugene Sue's Les Mysteries Du Peuple (Mysteries of a People) series of novellas.
In the last few Novels of that saga during their depiction of the French Revolutions (both the original and the 1848 one) Sue decided to build a Shared Universe by incorporating both the Hero of his first hit The Mysteries of Paris, Rodolphe Duke of Gerolstien, and the Villain of his second hit The Wandering Jew, the Jesuit Magnificent Bastard Father Robin.
At the end of the last novel set in 1848 Rodolphe thwarts Father Rodin's effort to carry out a Jesuit master plan for world domination. This plan (which was removed from the only existing English Translation of the Novel titled The Galley Slave's Ring; or, The Family Lebrenn) is the literary ancestor of the Protocols.
What is very rarely known however, is that there was a book published in 1848 claiming to expose a real life Jesuit Conspiracy not at all unlike the one depicted in Eugene Sue's fiction. The Jesuit Conspiracy. The Secret Plan of The Order by Jacopo Leon.
So the history of Jesuit Conspiracy theories, real or imagined, is a long and complicated one. Today it tends to manifest in fiction not with actual Jesuits but Fictional analogues (or Dan Brown's view of Opus Dei). The Hellsing Anime is probably more in line with Jack Chick then Eugene Sue with it's Anglican POV. But I still see it's Ultimate (pun intended) literary debt as being to Sue.
In counter to them sometimes are works like the last three of Ponson Du Terril's Rocambole novels which depict an imagined Anglican counterpart to the Jesuits, and with Jesuits portrayed positively. If Ponson was more informed he could have used the real life Orange Lodge of Freemasonry which is/was very much politically involved in opposing the causes of Irish and Scottish independence.
If you want to for fun read an Unintentionally (maybe) hilarious defense of the Jesuits by a 19th Century French Catholic Royalist. I recommend Paul Feval's, it's the only of his post "conversion" works available in English. http://theshadowmenlounge.tumblr.com/post/138210841036/jesuits-enlgish-translation-interesting
None of my undermining of Jesuit Conspiracy theories here makes me a Catholic Apologist, you can see my opposition to Catholic Doctrine is quite harsh on my Socla Scirptura Blog.
Monday, September 7, 2015
Someone on Amazon has been publishing Kindle Books in Adam Weishaupt's name
They are not real English Translations of what the real Adam Weishaupt wrote. But they are all on conspiracy related subjects.
I don't know if someone is actually expressing their real beliefs, or they're making fun of Conspiracy Theorists, or it's just a cheap gimmick to make quick money.
But they are out there, so be aware and don't be fooled.
They are here.
One of the books by the real Adam Weishaupt is available in English now, sold on Amazon here. For a more through look at the Illuminait source documents check out Terry Melanson's research.
I don't know if someone is actually expressing their real beliefs, or they're making fun of Conspiracy Theorists, or it's just a cheap gimmick to make quick money.
But they are out there, so be aware and don't be fooled.
They are here.
One of the books by the real Adam Weishaupt is available in English now, sold on Amazon here. For a more through look at the Illuminait source documents check out Terry Melanson's research.
Sunday, February 8, 2015
The Illuminati vs Esoteric Freemasonry
I want to use this blog to shoot down many popular myths about the Illuminati, and Secret Societies in general. (Even that they used the All Seeing Eye and Pyramid as a symbol is one such myth.) I am a Conspiracy Theorist, but it hurts our credibility when we take at face value so many claims without investigating them. I love Alex Jones [Update 2016, used to], he's great at breaking down what's going on in the present. But when he goes back to 18th and 19th century History, he repeats many common mistakes.
In Evangelical Christian circles we want to view the "Illuminati" (which has become a byword for the enemy in general without much care for what the Bavarian Illuminati was) as synonymous with the highest level occult activity, Satanists and Neo-Pagans. And it backs up that desire that the O.T.O and Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn claim Illuminati ancestry. I feel like Occult exposing Christians need to stop believing what the occult groups and Freemasons claim about themselves so much.
The truth however is that while the Bavarian Illuminati's rituals superficially incorporated ritualistic and mythological ideas, Adam Weishaupt was actually a devout "Rationalist" who hated the Esoterisism of the Rosicrucians and more mystical brands of Freemasonry (the real ancestors of the O.T.O and Golden Dawn). This fact becomes apparent studying the diligent research of Terry Melanson author of The Perfectibilists, and Jeva Singh-Anand who recently translated Kingge's book Philo's Reply. Melanson is a fellow conspiracy theorist, Anand is not. They are among the few who research the Illuminati going back to the oldest contemporary documents, most of which sadly aren't available in English yet.
This conflict has some overlap with his hatred of the Jesuits, (pretty much all Continental Rosecurcians at this time were Jesuits). But some of the above historians will overlook how you can be an Esoteric and still oppose the Jesutis and the Catholic Church. Especially those esoterics who were probably in secret serving British Intelligence.
Another important note, Weishaupt's order were not the first to use a name derived from the Latin "Illuminate". Many of the Esoteric groups Weishaupt hated were associated with terms like Iluminees and Illuminisim. This has caused researchers to often confuse references to them with the Bavarian Illuminati. Going back to Barruel and Robinson early on, and still today by authors like Marco Di Luchetti.
I have a theory however.
While the traditional Conspiracy Theory narrative is that the Bavarian Illuminati took over Freemasonry, I'm thinking it might have been the other way around. The Esoteric Masons infiltrated and took over the Illuminati, then after the Illuminati was "disbanded" they incorporated much of the infrastructure and strategy that Weishaupt had devised into their own political machinations they already had planned. Still the claim that the Illuminati took over Masonry has more creditably then it's given credit for, upon studying provable Illuminati members, some either already were or become the highest ranking Masons in their respective countries.
The Strict Observance Rite was a popular mystical Masonic order during the mid 18th Century. This order became a bit of a problem after it's founder died. He had made up a story about mysterious unseen superiors overseeing the order, but it seems they didn't actually exist. It was a strict observance lodge Weishaupt was initiated into in 1777 the year after he founded the Illuminati.
In 1782 Karl Langrave of Hesse-Kassel, who was the second highest ranking man in German Freemasonry, organized a Masonic conference at Wilhelmsbad to decide what to do about the Strict Observance Rite (which was among the many secret societies he himself was a member of). It wound up being dissolved, and as Melenson's article shows many members joined the Bavarian Illuminati either right then or in the coming months. These included Karl of Hesse-Kassel himself, and the highest ranking man in German Freemasonry, the Duke of Brunswick (there were two at this time, don't confuse them as Nesta Webster did, the other was his nephew and not a known Illuminati member or Mason, though he was sympathetic to the Revolutionaries in-spite his involvement in the war against them).
Karl would latter claim in his official memoirs that he joined the order to try and sabotage their political agenda, but I think that was saving face. Karl was very deeply involved in the occult/esoteric side of Masonry. It was he who lodged the Comte de Saint-Germain during the last years of his Life. Saint-Germain first popped up in England, I think he was possibly a British Spy.
But also among the Wilhelmsbad recruits was Johann Joachim Christopher Bode. He was deeply involved in Esoteric Masonry before joining the Illuminati, supposedly he turned his back on Mysticism and became a Rationalist like Weishaupt when he joined the Illuminati. But I have trouble believing that, one doesn't simply reject the Esoteric so easily when they'd been deeply involved in it. I think he was claiming that to gain the trust of Weishaupt and the other leaders of the order.
After the order was "disbanded" in 1784, Bode became the de facto chief executive of the order. It was he who traveled to France in 1787, which I shall expand on in future posts.
Saint-Martin is an important figure in the history of the Occult at this time. He was friends with Nicolas Bonneville (who was an Illuminati sympathizer but not quite a confirmed member, and he also wrote against the Jesuits).
Also important to the History of Esoteric Freemasonry was the order of Memphis-Misraim.
Other known esoterics and occultists who become Illuminati members include Johann Caspar [Jean Gaspard] Schweizer (1754-1811), Count Franz Joseph von Kolowrat-Liebensteinsky (b. 1748), and probably most recruited from the French Philadelthes. I could also mention Goethe but there is disagreement on how active his membership was.
In Evangelical Christian circles we want to view the "Illuminati" (which has become a byword for the enemy in general without much care for what the Bavarian Illuminati was) as synonymous with the highest level occult activity, Satanists and Neo-Pagans. And it backs up that desire that the O.T.O and Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn claim Illuminati ancestry. I feel like Occult exposing Christians need to stop believing what the occult groups and Freemasons claim about themselves so much.
The truth however is that while the Bavarian Illuminati's rituals superficially incorporated ritualistic and mythological ideas, Adam Weishaupt was actually a devout "Rationalist" who hated the Esoterisism of the Rosicrucians and more mystical brands of Freemasonry (the real ancestors of the O.T.O and Golden Dawn). This fact becomes apparent studying the diligent research of Terry Melanson author of The Perfectibilists, and Jeva Singh-Anand who recently translated Kingge's book Philo's Reply. Melanson is a fellow conspiracy theorist, Anand is not. They are among the few who research the Illuminati going back to the oldest contemporary documents, most of which sadly aren't available in English yet.
This conflict has some overlap with his hatred of the Jesuits, (pretty much all Continental Rosecurcians at this time were Jesuits). But some of the above historians will overlook how you can be an Esoteric and still oppose the Jesutis and the Catholic Church. Especially those esoterics who were probably in secret serving British Intelligence.
Another important note, Weishaupt's order were not the first to use a name derived from the Latin "Illuminate". Many of the Esoteric groups Weishaupt hated were associated with terms like Iluminees and Illuminisim. This has caused researchers to often confuse references to them with the Bavarian Illuminati. Going back to Barruel and Robinson early on, and still today by authors like Marco Di Luchetti.
I have a theory however.
While the traditional Conspiracy Theory narrative is that the Bavarian Illuminati took over Freemasonry, I'm thinking it might have been the other way around. The Esoteric Masons infiltrated and took over the Illuminati, then after the Illuminati was "disbanded" they incorporated much of the infrastructure and strategy that Weishaupt had devised into their own political machinations they already had planned. Still the claim that the Illuminati took over Masonry has more creditably then it's given credit for, upon studying provable Illuminati members, some either already were or become the highest ranking Masons in their respective countries.
The Strict Observance Rite was a popular mystical Masonic order during the mid 18th Century. This order became a bit of a problem after it's founder died. He had made up a story about mysterious unseen superiors overseeing the order, but it seems they didn't actually exist. It was a strict observance lodge Weishaupt was initiated into in 1777 the year after he founded the Illuminati.
In 1782 Karl Langrave of Hesse-Kassel, who was the second highest ranking man in German Freemasonry, organized a Masonic conference at Wilhelmsbad to decide what to do about the Strict Observance Rite (which was among the many secret societies he himself was a member of). It wound up being dissolved, and as Melenson's article shows many members joined the Bavarian Illuminati either right then or in the coming months. These included Karl of Hesse-Kassel himself, and the highest ranking man in German Freemasonry, the Duke of Brunswick (there were two at this time, don't confuse them as Nesta Webster did, the other was his nephew and not a known Illuminati member or Mason, though he was sympathetic to the Revolutionaries in-spite his involvement in the war against them).
Karl would latter claim in his official memoirs that he joined the order to try and sabotage their political agenda, but I think that was saving face. Karl was very deeply involved in the occult/esoteric side of Masonry. It was he who lodged the Comte de Saint-Germain during the last years of his Life. Saint-Germain first popped up in England, I think he was possibly a British Spy.
But also among the Wilhelmsbad recruits was Johann Joachim Christopher Bode. He was deeply involved in Esoteric Masonry before joining the Illuminati, supposedly he turned his back on Mysticism and became a Rationalist like Weishaupt when he joined the Illuminati. But I have trouble believing that, one doesn't simply reject the Esoteric so easily when they'd been deeply involved in it. I think he was claiming that to gain the trust of Weishaupt and the other leaders of the order.
After the order was "disbanded" in 1784, Bode became the de facto chief executive of the order. It was he who traveled to France in 1787, which I shall expand on in future posts.
Saint-Martin is an important figure in the history of the Occult at this time. He was friends with Nicolas Bonneville (who was an Illuminati sympathizer but not quite a confirmed member, and he also wrote against the Jesuits).
Also important to the History of Esoteric Freemasonry was the order of Memphis-Misraim.
Other known esoterics and occultists who become Illuminati members include Johann Caspar [Jean Gaspard] Schweizer (1754-1811), Count Franz Joseph von Kolowrat-Liebensteinsky (b. 1748), and probably most recruited from the French Philadelthes. I could also mention Goethe but there is disagreement on how active his membership was.
Friday, February 6, 2015
Mayer Rothschild did not create the Bavarian Illuminati
One of the most persistent myths about the origin of the Illuminati you frequently see being repeated online without any source is a claim that Weishaupt was recruited to form the Illuminati by Mayer Amschel Rothschild.
The story goes that either in 1770 or 1773 Rothschild presented Weishaupt at a meeting to 12 unidentified business partners.
The facts are that Mayer Rothschild was still pretty small potatoes when the Illuminati was founded in 1776, just a local business man in Frankfurt. No conceivable way he could have had influence over anyone at Ingolstadt university. It was following the French Revolution that his business really began to take off. And not till the 19th Century he truly became an International Banker.
Also all through the 18th Century both the Bavarian Illuminati and Freemasonry strictly forbid Jews from joining.
His tenuous connection to the Illuminati is through Wilhelm IX of Hesse-Kassel, he was patronaged by him since the 1760s and eventually became his main Banker. Wilhelm himself is not known to have been either Illuminati or a Mason. But his brother Karl Langrave of Hesse-Kassel was the number two man in German Freemasonry and the Strict Observance Rite, and among the former Strict Observance members who joined the Illuminati after the Masonic Congress at Wilhelmsbad in 1782. He'll be a subject of future posts of this blog.
There is one other connection, Baron Karl Theodor Dalberg (1744-1817)
The Rothschilds certainly became part of the Oligarchy over time. But they didn't start it.
The story goes that either in 1770 or 1773 Rothschild presented Weishaupt at a meeting to 12 unidentified business partners.
The facts are that Mayer Rothschild was still pretty small potatoes when the Illuminati was founded in 1776, just a local business man in Frankfurt. No conceivable way he could have had influence over anyone at Ingolstadt university. It was following the French Revolution that his business really began to take off. And not till the 19th Century he truly became an International Banker.
Also all through the 18th Century both the Bavarian Illuminati and Freemasonry strictly forbid Jews from joining.
His tenuous connection to the Illuminati is through Wilhelm IX of Hesse-Kassel, he was patronaged by him since the 1760s and eventually became his main Banker. Wilhelm himself is not known to have been either Illuminati or a Mason. But his brother Karl Langrave of Hesse-Kassel was the number two man in German Freemasonry and the Strict Observance Rite, and among the former Strict Observance members who joined the Illuminati after the Masonic Congress at Wilhelmsbad in 1782. He'll be a subject of future posts of this blog.
There is one other connection, Baron Karl Theodor Dalberg (1744-1817)
The Rothschilds certainly became part of the Oligarchy over time. But they didn't start it.
Wednesday, November 5, 2014
The book Secrecy or Freedom, Sumerizes other old Conspiracy books
One book I recently ordered off Amazon cheaply is Secrecy of Freedom, a
book with gives in-depth reviews of a dozen older books going back 200
years. A shot statement of the book's goal exists here.
http://www.abjpress.com/sofpage.html
I ordered it off Amazon
And I shall copy the review of it I left there.
http://tarpley.net/online-books/against-oligarchy/
The the pre-1923 ones should be possible to find online free too, but Dillon's might not be because of it having been lost till rediscovered in 1950.
I've learned since I first made that review that Webster's books make some major errors. She confuses the two Dukes of Brunswick. And she desired to connect the Illuminati to only one factions of the French Revolutionaries. In fact they had ties to many factions, including the Duke of Orleans.
The mission statement of groups like the Illuminati, the Jacobins and the Carbonari may have been opposition to Royalty and Aristocracy in-principle, and the rank and file members and their non member supporters truly believed that ideal. But the evidence suggests the power behind them was one clan of Nobility trying to wipe out their rivals.
Chief among them were the British Oligarchy who gained absolute power in Britain upon the establishment of the House of Hannover with King George I, who controlled the Bank of England and the East India Company. But outside England they were allied with the Venetian Nobility, and a collection of Germanic Noble and Royal families they intermarried with. The enemies they wanted dealt with were mainly the French (main Bourbon line) and Austrian Royal Families of the time originally, but in time they grew to really hate Russia's Tzars. The Duke of Orleans was related the Bourbans, but had a connection to those German families.
Fredrick The Great king of Prussia who was a key collaborator of Voltaire (in known to have played a vital role in forming German Freemasonry in the years before the founding of the Bavarian Illuminati) was a grandson of George I. Wilhelm IX, Landgrave of Hesse-Kassel who played an important role in the biography of Mayer Amschel Rothschild (the relationship didn't begin till the early 1800s however, and neither the Freemasons or Jews in the late 1700s allowed Jews to join) was a Grandson of George II. And his Brother Karl was the number two person in German Freemasonry, and was inducted into the Illuminati in 1782. Another Grandson of George II was William V, Prince of Orange-Nassau an ancestor of the current Royal Family of the Netherlands, who are key players in the Bilderberg group. Duke Ernest II of Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg (1745–1804) harbored Adam Weishaut during his latter life, he's of the same Noble family that produced Albert, Prince Consort of Queen Victoria as well as Victoria herself, and thus the current Windsor dynasty. Also related to both the Hannover and Saxe-Gotha families were the Dukes of Brunswick, the older of whom was the Grand Master of German Freemasonry.
Voltaire had been originally inducted into Freemasonry in England, and there is evidence of British and Venetian spies being involved in the French Revolution. According to Tarply both Cagliostro and Casanova were Venetian agents. The British Crown and it's system was never even scratched by the Revolutions of the 19th Century. They had Popular Uprisings in 1848, but they could never get the Support of the grander Masonic-Carbonari Conspiracy. Dillon notes how Mazzini neglects to mention the Irish as being among the people who deserve Freedom and Independence.
Another mysterious figure is Nubius. In the records available to Dillon he is known only by his Codename (which is Nubius) his real name and identity isn't known. (This can clearly make him very attractive to a writer of fiction, like myself). All we know is....
1. He became leader of the Carbonari many years before Weishaut died in 1830 (at least by 1822), and after Weishaut's Death he became head of the entire Conspiracy.
2. He was an Italian Nobleman.
3. He was alive at least as late as August 9th 1838. But died soon after (maybe in 1838, or a few years latter, probably no latter then 1844), was possibly Poisoned by Mazzini or his supporters who wanted to take the leadership of the Carbonari for himself, but Nubius didn't even let him into the Inner Circle (the Alta Vendita) because Mazzini desired a strategy that he considered to aggressive and bloody at that point.
I have come to suspect he's possibly Philippe Buonarroti/Filippo Giuseppe Maria Ludovico Buonarroti.
After Nubius's death Mazzini gained power within the Carbonari and Italian Freemasonry, but Lord Palmerston become the leader of the grander Conspiracy.
Count Calgiostro can be the one most difficult to study. Many real Conspiracy Theory websites that don't do enough fact checking have trouble separating the real figure from the fiction of Alexandre Dumas. Only the Second Dumas novel featuring him The Queen's Necklace is even loosely based on his real history. The narrative of Joseph Balsamo a.k.a. Memoirs of a Physician set in 1770 to 1773 is pure fiction, but the fantastic background he claims for himself is basically what the real Calgiostro claimed.
Cagliostro is historically attributed with playing a key role in the history of the Masonic Rite of Misriam. Which latter merges with the rite of Memphis to form the rite of Memphis-Misraim, the exclusive Masonic order William Schneobelen says he joined and reached the 90th Degree of.
There were also Pro-Catholic and Pro-Royalist secret societies, lead by the Jesuits, in opposition to the Masonic-Illuminati-Carbonari conspirators.
Their mission statement being The Secret Treaty of Verona of 1822.
In time however the Catholic Church was completely taken over the Masonic conspirators. John the 23rd played a key role in that take over, as did the P2 Lodge. John Paul II cemented it.
http://www.abjpress.com/sofpage.html
I ordered it off Amazon
And I shall copy the review of it I left there.
http://www.amazon.com/review/R1HXQCC8QPBMO4/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0964084821Tarpley's book can be read online free here.
This book is a review of a number of older earlier books, some from the 19th Century. It's now allot cheaper then buying all these books on their own, some are rare now. It presents some of the most detailed information you can find on the History of Conspiracies, but there are some issues of perspective.
Many of the books chosen (Starting with favoring Barruel over Robinson) presents thing from a very Pro-Catholic and Anti-Protestant (especially Anglican) perspective. Tarpley especially is worth taking issue with. He says the Reformation was created by Venice is response to a threat against them from the the early 1500s in order to divide Europe. This ignores men like Girolamo Savonarola and John Wycliffe who were reformers well before Luther. And there were always groups in Western Europe that did not submit to the Vatican. He refers to England having been Catholic for 900 years before the time of Henry VIII, but the Britons were already Christian before Augustine came with roots going back to the First Century, and he persecuted these Celtic Christians.
Now, I am not a mainline Protestant. I'm a member of no Denomination as I hate organized religion. But I am philosophically a cross between an Independent Baptist and a Pentecostal. So I do agree, the more organized Reformation of men like Calvin was the Church of Sardis.
The first 2 of the 3 Webster books covered are very good at giving detailed information on the French Revolution and latter European Revolutions. That show that the common people wanted a Constitutional Monarchy from of Government inspired by America's, but the Conspirators manipulated events to follow their Anti-Christian and Socialist agenda. The third however as it talks about about the history of Monotheistic Religion gets into allot of questionable areas.
My last significant comment is on Treason in America. Mostly this books is all very good information, but one area that surprised me, is seeing a book on Conspiracy that says Andrew Jackson's ending the Central Bank was a bad thing and gave more power to the English aristocrats. The fact is the Bank was controlled by the British. I can agree then Von Buren's actions on how to deal with the changes in Economy following the Bank's removal were problematic.
The book also has a few points were it debunks the notion of viewing it as a Jewish Conspiracy. Which is very good.
http://tarpley.net/online-books/against-oligarchy/
The the pre-1923 ones should be possible to find online free too, but Dillon's might not be because of it having been lost till rediscovered in 1950.
I've learned since I first made that review that Webster's books make some major errors. She confuses the two Dukes of Brunswick. And she desired to connect the Illuminati to only one factions of the French Revolutionaries. In fact they had ties to many factions, including the Duke of Orleans.
The mission statement of groups like the Illuminati, the Jacobins and the Carbonari may have been opposition to Royalty and Aristocracy in-principle, and the rank and file members and their non member supporters truly believed that ideal. But the evidence suggests the power behind them was one clan of Nobility trying to wipe out their rivals.
Chief among them were the British Oligarchy who gained absolute power in Britain upon the establishment of the House of Hannover with King George I, who controlled the Bank of England and the East India Company. But outside England they were allied with the Venetian Nobility, and a collection of Germanic Noble and Royal families they intermarried with. The enemies they wanted dealt with were mainly the French (main Bourbon line) and Austrian Royal Families of the time originally, but in time they grew to really hate Russia's Tzars. The Duke of Orleans was related the Bourbans, but had a connection to those German families.
Fredrick The Great king of Prussia who was a key collaborator of Voltaire (in known to have played a vital role in forming German Freemasonry in the years before the founding of the Bavarian Illuminati) was a grandson of George I. Wilhelm IX, Landgrave of Hesse-Kassel who played an important role in the biography of Mayer Amschel Rothschild (the relationship didn't begin till the early 1800s however, and neither the Freemasons or Jews in the late 1700s allowed Jews to join) was a Grandson of George II. And his Brother Karl was the number two person in German Freemasonry, and was inducted into the Illuminati in 1782. Another Grandson of George II was William V, Prince of Orange-Nassau an ancestor of the current Royal Family of the Netherlands, who are key players in the Bilderberg group. Duke Ernest II of Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg (1745–1804) harbored Adam Weishaut during his latter life, he's of the same Noble family that produced Albert, Prince Consort of Queen Victoria as well as Victoria herself, and thus the current Windsor dynasty. Also related to both the Hannover and Saxe-Gotha families were the Dukes of Brunswick, the older of whom was the Grand Master of German Freemasonry.
Voltaire had been originally inducted into Freemasonry in England, and there is evidence of British and Venetian spies being involved in the French Revolution. According to Tarply both Cagliostro and Casanova were Venetian agents. The British Crown and it's system was never even scratched by the Revolutions of the 19th Century. They had Popular Uprisings in 1848, but they could never get the Support of the grander Masonic-Carbonari Conspiracy. Dillon notes how Mazzini neglects to mention the Irish as being among the people who deserve Freedom and Independence.
Another mysterious figure is Nubius. In the records available to Dillon he is known only by his Codename (which is Nubius) his real name and identity isn't known. (This can clearly make him very attractive to a writer of fiction, like myself). All we know is....
1. He became leader of the Carbonari many years before Weishaut died in 1830 (at least by 1822), and after Weishaut's Death he became head of the entire Conspiracy.
2. He was an Italian Nobleman.
3. He was alive at least as late as August 9th 1838. But died soon after (maybe in 1838, or a few years latter, probably no latter then 1844), was possibly Poisoned by Mazzini or his supporters who wanted to take the leadership of the Carbonari for himself, but Nubius didn't even let him into the Inner Circle (the Alta Vendita) because Mazzini desired a strategy that he considered to aggressive and bloody at that point.
I have come to suspect he's possibly Philippe Buonarroti/Filippo Giuseppe Maria Ludovico Buonarroti.
After Nubius's death Mazzini gained power within the Carbonari and Italian Freemasonry, but Lord Palmerston become the leader of the grander Conspiracy.
Count Calgiostro can be the one most difficult to study. Many real Conspiracy Theory websites that don't do enough fact checking have trouble separating the real figure from the fiction of Alexandre Dumas. Only the Second Dumas novel featuring him The Queen's Necklace is even loosely based on his real history. The narrative of Joseph Balsamo a.k.a. Memoirs of a Physician set in 1770 to 1773 is pure fiction, but the fantastic background he claims for himself is basically what the real Calgiostro claimed.
Cagliostro is historically attributed with playing a key role in the history of the Masonic Rite of Misriam. Which latter merges with the rite of Memphis to form the rite of Memphis-Misraim, the exclusive Masonic order William Schneobelen says he joined and reached the 90th Degree of.
There were also Pro-Catholic and Pro-Royalist secret societies, lead by the Jesuits, in opposition to the Masonic-Illuminati-Carbonari conspirators.
Their mission statement being The Secret Treaty of Verona of 1822.
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/secret_treaty_of_verona.htmOne thing both conspiracies had in common was being threatened by the United States Constitution.
CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE.
64th CONGRESS, 1st SESSION
VOLUME 53, PART 7
Page 6781
25 April 1916
I wish to put in the RECORD the secret treaty of Verona of November 22, 1822, showing what this ancient conflict is between the rule of the few and the rule of the many. I wish to call the attention of the Senate to this treaty because it is the threat of this treaty which was the basis of the Monroe doctrine. It throws a powerful white light upon the conflict between monarchial government and government by the people. The Holy Alliance under the influence of Metternich, the Premier of Austria, in 1822, issued this remarkable secret document :
[American Diplomatic Code, 1778 - 1884, vol. 2 ; Elliott, p. 179.]
SECRET TREATY OF VERONA
The undersigned, specially authorized to make some additions to the treaty of the Holy Alliance, after having exchanged their respective credentials, have agreed as follows :
ARTICLE 1. The high contracting powers being convinced that the system of representative government is equally as incompatible with the monarchial principles as the maxim of the sovereignty of the people with the high divine right, engage mutually in the most solemn manner, to use all their efforts to put an end to the system of representative governments, in whatever country it may exist in Europe, and to prevent its being introduced in those countries where it is not yet known.
ART. 2. As it can not be doubted that the liberty of the press is the most powerful means used by the pretended supporters of the rights of nations to the detriment of those princes, the high contracting parties promise reciprocally to adopt all proper measures to suppress it, not only in their own states but also in the rest of Europe.
ART. 3. Convinced that the principles of religion contribute most powerfully to keep nations in the state of passive obedience which they owe to their princes, the high contracting parties declare it to be their intention to sustain in their respective States those measures which the clergy may adopt, with the aim of ameliorating their own interests, so intimately connected with the preservation of the authority of the princes ; and the contracting powers join in offering their thanks to the Pope for what he has already done for them, and solicit his constant cooperation in their views of submitting the nations.
ART. 4. The situation of Spain and Portugal unite unhappily all the circumstances to which this treaty has particular reference. The high contracting parties, in confiding to France the care of putting an end to them, engaged to assist her in the manner which may the least compromit them with their own people and the people of France by means of a subsidy on the part of the two empires of 20,000,000 of francs every year from the date of the signature of this treaty to the end of the war.
ART. 5. In order to establish in the Peninsula the order of things which existed before the revolution of Cadiz, and to insure the entire execution of the articles of the present treaty, the high contracting parties give to each other the reciprocal assurance that as long as their views are not fulfilled, rejecting all other ideas of utility or other measure to be taken, they will address themselves with the shortest possible delay to all the authorities existing in their States and to all their agents in foreign countries, with the view to establish connections tending toward the accomplishment of the objects proposed by this treaty.
ART. 6. This treaty shall be renewed with such changes as new circumstances may give occasion for, either at a new congress or at the court of one of the contracting parties, as soon as the war with Spain shall be terminated.
ART. 7. The present treaty shall be ratified and the ratifications exchanged at Paris within the space of six months.
Made at Verona the 22d November, 1822.
For Austria :-----------------------------------------------------METTERNICH.
For France :------------------------------------------------CHATEAUBRIAND.
For Prussia :---------------------------------------------------------BERNSTET.
For Russia :------------------------------------------------------NESSELRODE.
I ask to have printed in the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD this secret treaty, because I think it ought to be called now to the attention of the people of the United States and of the world. This evidence of the conflict between the rule of the few verses popular government should be emphasized on the minds of the people of the United States, that the conflict now waging throughout the world may be more clearly understood, for after all said the great pending war springs from the weakness and frailty of government by the few, where human error is far more probable than the error of the many where aggressive war is only permitted upon the authorizing vote of those whose lives are jeopardized in the trenches of modern war.
Mr. SHAFROTH. Mr. President, I should like to have the senator state whether in that treaty there was not a coalition formed between the powerful countries of Europe to reestablish the sovereignty of Spain in the Republics of South and Central America?
Mr. OWEN. I was just going to comment upon that, and I am going to take but a few moments to do so because I realize the pressure of other matters. This Holy Alliance, having put a Bourbon prince upon the throne of France by force, then used France to suppress the constitution of Spain immediately afterwards, and by this very treaty gave her a subsidy of 20,000,000 francs annually to enable her to wage war upon the people of Spain and to prevent their exercise of any measure of the right of self-government. The Holy Alliance immediately did the same thing in Italy, by sending Austrian troops to Italy, where the people there attempted to exercise a like measure of liberal constitutional self-government ; and it was not until the printing press, which the Holy Alliance so stoutly opposed, taught the people of Europe the value of liberty that finally one country after another seized a greater and greater right of self government, until now it may be fairly said that nearly all the nations of Europe have a very large measure of self government. However, I wish to call the attention of the Senate and the country to this important history in the growth of constitutional popular self-government. The Holy Alliance made its powers felt by the wholesale drastic suppression of the press in Europe, by universal censorship, by killing free speech and all ideas of popular rights, and by the complete suppression of popular government. The Holy Alliance having destroyed popular government in Spain and in Italy, had well-laid plans also to destroy popular government in the American colonies which had revolted from Spain and Portugal in Central and South America under the influence of the successful example of the United States. It was because of this conspiracy against the American Republics by the European monarchies that the great English statesman, Canning, called the attention of our government to it, and our statesmen then, including Thomas Jefferson, took an active part to bring about the declaration by President Monroe in his next annual message to the Congress of the United States that the United States should regard it as an act of hostility to the government of the United States and an unfriendly act if this coalition or if any power of Europe ever undertook to establish upon the American Continent any control of any American Republic or to acquire any territorial rights. This is the so-called Monroe doctrine. The threat under the secret treaty of Verona to suppress popular governments in the American Republics is the basis of the Monroe doctrine. This secret treaty sets forth clearly the conflict between monarchial government and popular government and the government of the few as against the government of the many. It is a part, in reality, of developing popular sovereignty when we demand for women equal rights to life, to liberty, to the possession of property, to an equal voice in the making of the laws and the administration of the laws. This demand on the part of the women is made by men, and it ought to be made by men as well as by thinking, progressive women, as it will promote human liberty and human happiness. I sympathize with it, and I hope that all parties will in the national conventions give their approval to this larger measure of liberty to the better half of the human race.
Official Records of the Union Confederate Navies in the War of the Rebellion
In time however the Catholic Church was completely taken over the Masonic conspirators. John the 23rd played a key role in that take over, as did the P2 Lodge. John Paul II cemented it.
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