Monday, February 15, 2016

Adam Weishaupt was NOT a Jesuit

Terry Melanson does a good job of documenting how Adam Weistaupt was an enemy of the Jesuits.

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2015/02/08/illuminati-conspiracy-part-two-sniffing-out-jesuits/#Strategems-of

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2015/07/28/roots-of-the-hermetic-order-of-the-golden-dawn/

But I'm doing this post as an overdue response to Johnny Cirucci and his claims in his two part Interview with Rob Skiba.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIgwnwpCanA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo-vmhhpgmE

For the first part I and some others left comments correcting this myth which Rob Skiba asked him to respond to in part two.  And he just kept up his usual spiel.

He fully admits we have no documentation of Weishaupt ever being a member of the Jesuits.  His argument is solely that he could not possibly have become Professor of Cannon Law at a Jesuit controlled university if he wasn't a Jesuit.

But he goes on to talk about the history surrounding the suppression of the Jesuit order, and is blindingly ignorant to how that destroyed his entire argument about Weishaupt being a Jesuit.  He was appointed Professor of Canon Law AFTER the Suppression, he was entrusted with that position at that time precisely because he hated the Jesuits and was determined to root them out.

He talks also about presumed Jesuit take over of Freemasonry.  The Masons who joined the Illuminati were attracted to it precisely because they too were paranoid about that very subject.  Kingge and Bode and so on.  Also Nicolas Bonneville who was not a known member but was a known sympathizer.

What's amusing is the claim of Templar origin of Freemasonry that modern Conspiracy Theorists both for and against the Masons accept at face value, was a myth created as part of the Jesuit infiltration.  It was largely the Strict Observance Rite that popularized it.

Interestingly in the original version of the myth it wasn't the Templars but rather the Knights Hospilitars.  In a narrative promoted by Michael Ramsay in 1737.  Ramsay was a member himself of a totally different Crusader era monastic order, the Order of Lazarus.  It's also notable that in Cagliastro's fanciful origin story he wrote for himself he connected himself to the Knights of Malta via his imagined mentor Althotas.  (Althotas was clearly the basis for the later Kolmer legend added to Weishaupt's fictional biography).

I find it interesting in all those links however, that these attempts by the Jesuits to Catholisize Freemasonry went hand in hand with the Jacobite Stuart cause.  Because the same Pope who suppressed the Jesuits was also the one who stopped officially recognizing the exiled Stuarts when Charles Edward Stuart become the rightful Stuart heir in 1766.  That direct Stuart line died out, so who knows if the modern Stuart claimants have the same Jesuit connections.

The Jesuits today are a shadow of what they once were.  People make a big deal out of Francis being the first Jesuit to become Pope.  But he also has this Liberal Obama clone reputation that is totally counter to the political agenda of the Jesuits who Weishaupt and Eugene Sue where so determined to demonize.

Let's talk about Eugene Sue for a bit.  Besides being a Socialist rather then Protestant he was kind of the Jack Chick of Nineteenth Century France.

When discussing the origins of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion hoax.  People will talk about how it plagiarized from Dialogue in Hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu a political satire by Maurice Jolly.  And a chapter of Biarritz an 1868 novel by Anti-Semitic German author Hermann Goedsche.

Somewhat more Esoteric but still fairly well known is that the Dialouge in Hell was also plagiarizing the 1856 published last volume of Eugene Sue's Les Mysteries Du Peuple (Mysteries of a People) series of novellas.

In the last few Novels of that saga during their depiction of the French Revolutions (both the original and the 1848 one) Sue decided to build a Shared Universe by incorporating both the Hero of his first hit The Mysteries of Paris, Rodolphe Duke of Gerolstien, and the Villain of his second hit The Wandering Jew, the Jesuit Magnificent Bastard Father Robin.

At the end of the last novel set in 1848 Rodolphe thwarts Father Rodin's effort to carry out a Jesuit master plan for world domination.  This plan (which was removed from the only existing English Translation of the Novel titled The Galley Slave's Ring; or, The Family Lebrenn) is the literary ancestor of the Protocols.

What is very rarely known however is that there was a book published in 1848 claiming to expose a real life Jesuit Conspiracy not at all unlike the one depicted in Eugene Sue's fiction.  The Jesuit Conspiracy. The Secret Plan of The Order by Jacopo Leon.

So the history of Jesuit Conspiracy theories, real or imagined, is a long and complicated one.  Today it tends to manifest in fiction not with actual Jesuits but Fictional analogues (or Dan Brown's view of Opus Dei).  The Hellsing Anime is probably more in line with Jack Chick then Eugene Sue with it's Anglican POV.  But I still see it's Ultimate (pun intended) literary debt as being to Sue.

In counter to them sometimes are works like the last three of Ponson Du Terril's Rocambole novels which depict an imagined Anglican counterpart to the Jesuits, and with Jesuits portrayed positively.  If Ponson was more informed he could have used the real life Orange Lodge of Freemasonry which is/was very much politically involved in opposing the causes of Irish and Scottish independence.

If you want to for fun read an Unintentionally (maybe) hilarious defense of the Jesuits by a 19th Century French Catholic Royalist.  I recommend Paul Feval's, it's the only of his post "conversion" works available in English. http://theshadowmenlounge.tumblr.com/post/138210841036/jesuits-enlgish-translation-interesting

None of my undermining of Jesuit Conspiracy theories here makes me a Catholic Apologist, you can see my opposition to Catholic Doctrine is quite harsh on my Socla Scirptura Blog.

5 comments:

  1. Johnny Cirucci is completely ignorant about the Illuminati, Masonry, the Enlightenment, the counter-enlightenment and the Jesuits. Not even worth humoring. Typical ideological pamphleteer.

    By the way, the Jack Chicks of the 18th Century were the Illuminati themselves. Bode and Nicolai, in particular, were delirious frothing-at-the-mouth Jesuit paranoiacs.

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    1. I compare Sue to Chick because Sue wrote melodramatic fiction.

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    2. Do you have any thoughts on my Jesuit/Jacobite observation?

      I have another new post that might itnerest you.
      http://conspiracyhistoryfacts.blogspot.com/2016/02/the-hidden-faith-of-founding-fathers.html

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    3. I try and stay clear of Jacobite research. It is near impossible to separate truth from myth, especially since the writings of Marsha Schuchard who piles on more claims with little to no evidence in such works as 'Restoring the Temple of Vision: Cabalistic Freemasonry and Stuart Culture' and 'Emanuel Swedenborg, Secret Agent on Earth and in Heaven: Jacobites, Jews and Freemasons in Early Modern Sweden'. Why the scholarly community tolerates her works is beyond me. Publisher Brill absolutely loves her. I've checked many of her citations and when you actually read the source, mostly they do not say anywhere near what she claims they say.

      On the Knights of Malta - there were many members who were Freemasons during the Enlightenment and also Illuminati members. Cagliostro too had numerous contacts with them during the 1770s and 80s, not just through his claimed guru. A really good scholarly book on it is Thomas Freller's 'Cagliostro and Malta' (1997). He was given access to the knight's archives and he has written histories of the German and Bavarian langues of the Order as well.

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